FancyDante
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Post by FancyDante on Oct 17, 2013 6:44:46 GMT
You'll have to forgive the typo's in the above post, Its almost 3am my time and I have been lazy about posting lately. My apologies
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KrAzY
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Post by KrAzY on Oct 17, 2013 14:32:38 GMT
you're right. this is mainly an issue of me and you being the only two people willing to talk more than one post every once in a while.
mafia is for me though. I have played a lot of games, have played and run several games on a different and run IRL games of mafia and werewolfs of millers hollow (a variant) on a semi-- regular basis. I know how the game is played, I guess i've gotten used to games lasting 30 minutes as opposed to months, its not a huge problem when people arent cooperating and daytime lasts only a minute.
i'm not going to lynch you, actually now I am suspicious of rasq for jumping on the bandwagon to lynch you so quickly after he jumped on the bandwagon early on to tell you his role
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Post by Tiny Tim on Oct 17, 2013 17:41:06 GMT
As of right now I'm not sure what to make of KrAzY and Dante's actions. It looks to me like Dante was intentionally baiting KrAzY into reacting aggressively, which seems to have worked. But at the same time, I don't think that necessarily means that KrAzY is at all scummy. It could, and it seems does, mean that he is fed up with the way things have been going on, which is understandable. I'm not sure why exactly Dante was trying to get the rise out of KrAzY, since it doesn't prove much. At the same time though, Dante made a lot of claims about what KrAzY was saying or doing in his posts, which seem somewhat misleading. However I am confused again. Why are you so set against me, yet want my information gathering to win the town the game right now this second? That is conflicting to me, not scummy, just conflictingly confusing. I understand you're becoming impatient but if you want me to pick the scum out of the group right this moment, I cannot. In that regard I have failed you. This in particular stands out to me. I don't believe KrAzY has ever said that he wants you to win the game right this second, he had been saying that he wanted to know your reasoning for wanting to lynch Leorion. And that your gut feeling wasn't enough for him at this point. Furthermore you point out that you can't reveal any information because it would lead to town deaths at the hands of Kira. But if you wanted Leorion to be lynched anyway, then what would revealing the logic for your suspicions on him cause? This is assuming you do have a hard logic for it, which you almost always do. All of that being said, due to my interactions with both Dante and KrAzY outside of thread, I don't believe either of them to be scum. I just believe them to both be townies that need to work together, as, I think, Dante should probably work together with anyone elected King. Rather than just trying to tell them what to do or coercing them into doing what it is that he wants.
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Post by Ratchet on Oct 19, 2013 17:55:08 GMT
Hmm, we're not at a decision yet. Should we do an activity check?
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Post by Leorion on Oct 19, 2013 23:11:48 GMT
Hmm, we're not at a decision yet. Should we do an activity check? Dat avatar doesn't fit ya u.u You're a more collective person D:
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Oct 19, 2013 23:25:39 GMT
I suggest we lynch Ratchet, purely on account of what he has for an avatar.
Anyway, KrAzY, I agreed with Dante's plan earlier because it seemed like the best way to advance the game, since nobody was going to role-claim, and nobody had come forward as an investigator. I didn't volunteer myself, I literally rolled random numbers to nominate people for revealing their roles.
Later, I was in favor of lynching Dante, because he's going around and suggesting that we lynch people on account of his gut feelings. Besides, it seems like the best way to advance the game. At this point, I'm really having a hard time caring. I /like/ mafia, but progress has been too slow to have fun with.
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Post by Ratchet on Oct 20, 2013 1:19:17 GMT
D: I'll change my avy again tomorrow
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Oct 20, 2013 1:32:59 GMT
If you choose anything from Code Geass, my suggestion still stands.
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Post by Leorion on Oct 20, 2013 20:46:09 GMT
If you choose anything from Code Geass, my suggestion still stands. But whyyy D: Code Geass was good...
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Post by Ratchet on Oct 20, 2013 22:05:57 GMT
There, Full Metal Panic now. FMP was bloody good .
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KrAzY
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Post by KrAzY on Oct 20, 2013 23:02:47 GMT
sorry about that guys, I just moved from GA to MD over the last 2 days
lynch Leorion
tim, i'm listening to you. I hope you have a better read on how things are going than I do
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FancyDante
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Post by FancyDante on Oct 20, 2013 23:39:01 GMT
Oh dear, I see the lynch has gone tho before my post. I'm happy with this lynch as well.
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Post by Rotaretilbo on Oct 20, 2013 23:45:13 GMT
After much debate, the head investigator finally relented to the majority. Touta Matsuda had expressed sentiments that could be conceived as pro-Kira, and so he was hauled off to jail with the others. However, as before, the killings continued, undaunted by the investigators' attempts.Touta Matsuda (Leorion), a vanilla towny, has been lynched. It is Night 5. Please send all actions to Rotaretilbo. 48 hours until Day 6.
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Post by Rotaretilbo on Oct 21, 2013 18:54:16 GMT
The deaths of criminals both wanted and convicted continued. The investigators were beginning to lose hope. How could they find someone who apparently had the ability to kill from any location with just a face and a name? Much less prove that he was doing it! It seemed an impossible task. Still, they assembled once again, ready to start the day anew. Well, almost all of them. When they noticed him missing and inquired of his absence, they learned that "Near" had fallen from the roof of the hotel he had been staying at. Whether it had been suicide, accident, or murder was still being determined. Horrified by the news and possible implications, they opened the envelope they found. It seemed that L had a favorite.
"Near" (Tiny Tim), Chess King Backup Kingmaker, has died. It is Day 6. KrAzY has been elected King.
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Oct 21, 2013 19:12:34 GMT
Alright, before I lay my cards on the table, I want to know what the rest of you guys think of this. How strong is scum now, and what roles do we know are in existence?
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Post by Ratchet on Oct 21, 2013 19:54:53 GMT
Ok, now this creates problems. We know that the Mafia do have a way to learn names, due to someone dying. That, or someone who Tim talked to out of the thread is scum. I don't know who he talked to, so that's pointless to discuss, with no way to prove it. Now, I believe that all of town, with the exception of the Kingsmakers, are Vanilla. I've thought this for some time. We also know that scum only need to kill one person now. With 5 NP's behind them, chances are they know the names of some of the players, but cannot/have chosen not to kill them. Considering they are at least 2, they're going to have something like a 1/4 shot at killing L.
We know this, to even have a hope now, we HAVE to lynch scum today. That's a given.
As for how to deal with this, I really do not know. If what Dante says is true, then scum have fake role info, so we can't catch them that way.
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FancyDante
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Post by FancyDante on Oct 21, 2013 20:08:21 GMT
Welp I'm pretty much out of ideas. I'm baffled how scum figured out Tim was a King. I'm pretty much useless in information now. Let's hear what Rasq has to say.
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KrAzY
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Post by KrAzY on Oct 22, 2013 21:28:13 GMT
I was expecting to get lynched today, guess not. tim never mentioned his role to me, maybe he was talking to other people and let them know his role. or maybe kira made the shinigami eye deal and can now see names in exchange for being revealed in a couple of turns
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Oct 23, 2013 3:51:15 GMT
Um... OK. I know the following things.
Tim was selected by the Kingmaker prime last night. The first time he was selected to be King, it was redirected to KrAzY. The second time, Tim became the King without a hitch. We may have a redirector or something in the game. I'm not sure, might correspond with something in the show.
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Post by Ratchet on Oct 23, 2013 22:22:31 GMT
I can't really see how a Redirecter fits the flavour all that much. Near being a Backup Kingsmaker makes sense, because he's a successor to L. The only redirector really possible is Mello, but, I'm not sure how that would affect the balance of the game. FancyDante Would a redirector fit in this set up?
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FancyDante
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Post by FancyDante on Oct 24, 2013 0:36:23 GMT
Um... OK. I know the following things. Tim was selected by the Kingmaker prime last night. The first time he was selected to be King, it was redirected to KrAzY. The second time, Tim became the King without a hitch. We may have a redirector or something in the game. I'm not sure, might correspond with something in the show. How could you possibly know that the King maker picked Tim. Second, Tim has never ever been King, ever. So that's false. Third, with only Kingmakers and scum in the game there is no way there's a redirector. Not only does that make no sense whatsoever, but it also makes no sense at all in a game where we have loads of VT's, two kingmakers, and at least a single scum. So I pretty much disagree with everything you just said.
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Oct 24, 2013 0:52:48 GMT
Second, Tim has never ever been King, ever. So that's false. I misspoke. The second time, it was deflected to Ratchet. Third, with only Kingmakers and scum in the game there is no way there's a redirector. Correct. It's most likely that a Kingmaker couldn't be made king, and it automatically deflected to other players.
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KrAzY
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Post by KrAzY on Oct 24, 2013 1:51:39 GMT
so someone tried to make Tim the king twice?
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Post by KrAzY on Oct 24, 2013 1:53:53 GMT
also it makes sense for a role to not be able to become a king, there is a condition in my role that makes me ineligible. although if that happens everyone would know I am ineligible, deflecting would make sense as a private way to shift who is king without that person looking needlessly suspicious
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FancyDante
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Post by FancyDante on Oct 24, 2013 5:40:27 GMT
also it makes sense for a role to not be able to become a king, there is a condition in my role that makes me ineligible. although if that happens everyone would know I am ineligible, deflecting would make sense as a private way to shift who is king without that person looking needlessly suspicious I'm sorry what?
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Post by Ratchet on Oct 24, 2013 7:16:50 GMT
I don't understand KrAzY's post. He says that it makes sense for a role to be ineligible to be a King. Fine, and in that case, I would assume that role would be a Chess King (Kingsmaker). But then, he says that his role has such a condition. This is not true, he's been King 3 times I believe, and he's King now. And then he spins off onto a whole tangent, talking about suspicion, for reasons only he really knows.
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KrAzY
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Post by KrAzY on Oct 25, 2013 0:17:17 GMT
my post makes perfect sense.
I said that kingmakers probably do deflect and are ineligible to become king. the reason I know that some people are ineligible to become king is that in the event of a certain condition (that obviously hasnt happened yet) then I also become ineligible to become king. but if that condition happens, then you all would probably receive notification that I am from that point ineligible.
then I reasoned that deflecting instead of outright telling the kingmakers to choose a different target would be a way to keep the inegitibility of a person secret without making the person who is ineligible look suspicious (or like a kingmaker if they are the only ones who start out ineligible)
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Post by Luminous on Oct 25, 2013 15:58:01 GMT
I guess I've missed out a whole lot on this game, I apologize since it kept on slipping my mind.
Everyone other than the kingmakers have no abilities or whatsoever, and having a redirector doesn't fit right with me.
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Post by Ratchet on Oct 26, 2013 21:59:59 GMT
KrAzY Now it makes sense. And I agree, that seems like a logical conclusion. Now, town, what do we do? What are our options here. We need to do something, what exactly I do not know. Do we random lynch and hope? Or do we try and discuss what we think?
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KrAzY
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Post by KrAzY on Oct 26, 2013 22:56:30 GMT
Deadguy has been online often but hasn't posted since like day 1... I think I'm going to lynch him. sound good to everyone?
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